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Post by danae on Feb 24, 2017 19:51:10 GMT
The place to sing songs of praise, throw flower petals into the air and shower everyone with them as they fall lightly to the ground... In other words.... Say something nice dammit!! pssssst..... PepperAnn sticky pretty please
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Post by ᴏɴʟɪɴᴇ-ᴅᴏɴ on Feb 24, 2017 20:03:42 GMT
Negan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 10:39:46 GMT
Praise the mullet! We're going to see it in all its glory tonight!
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Post by danae on Feb 27, 2017 13:23:26 GMT
This will be my first post in a praise the episode thread on this forum. For those that do not really know me I tend to wear a Pollyanna hat and stay out of the complaint department for the most part. I prefer to focus on the positive unless it is a critique that I just have to vent about (*cough* bad green screen *cough*)....
Anyway my M.O. is to watch the episode twice before offering up any opinions, views, theories, etc. But while I have this thought bouncing around in my head I wanted to get it on "paper"
I enjoyed the scenes with Dwight more than the scenes with Eugene and/or Negan. Yes Dwight is despicable, but I think his characters trajectory will prove to be an interesting arc. Is he capable of redeeming himself after the horrible death of the Doctor? If so, how on earth will it be enough to make him a character that is just likable enough that we as the audience might be willing to accept him as a possible comrade of team family or at the very least someone to be trusted enough as an inside spy perhaps?
I do not think that JudasDwight framed the doctor for his own good - I really believe that Dwight's reasoning for doing so was to give Sherry more time to get as far away from the Sanctuary as possible. Dwight does not care if he lives or dies, I think he is just going through the motions of day to day living as a Negan Minion. I do think that something is going to change that outlook for him. And once again I do not think that changed outlook will be for his own good or even the welfare of others. Something is going to happen that will make him want to live for the sole purpose of revenge. This is the reason I think that his story arc will be far more interesting than a great number of people may believe.
Okay, now I have to watch a second time before offering up any more opinions.
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Post by PepperAnn on Feb 27, 2017 14:31:31 GMT
Not one of us thought we could ever get over Father Gabriel's traitor ways....but we did. Dwight's story is so complex. I still can't stand him at this point, but he is definitely keeping me interested in where it goes.
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Post by wickedjenИ on Feb 27, 2017 16:00:53 GMT
This was an excellent episode.
All hail Dr. Smartypants Eugene, he is the fox in the henhouse and he is going to get. SHIT. DONE.
I cannot wait to see what happens!
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Post by lookitsrick on Feb 27, 2017 17:56:37 GMT
Still like Dwight
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Post by danae on Feb 27, 2017 23:55:26 GMT
Second watch complete
Part One (LOL)
Parts of this episode were excellent, and for me those excellent parts revolved around Dwight.
When the camera was focused on Negans back as he stood in the doorway while Dwight was getting the shit beat out him - well placed. Sometimes not seeing is more powerful than seeing.
Then we find Dwight in the cell. I am sure Dwight never thought he would end up back in that cell. He had become a great player in Negan's game. He knew the rules, he knew how to work a situation to his benefit and now he finds himself in the place that his victim just escaped from. That voice of Negan's, that fear inducing soft and almost whisper like tone "Dwighty boy was it you" - unnerving. And then his bangs on the door with Lucille. Jeffrey Dean Morgan is at his Negan best (IMO) when he is allowed to portray Negan as a "real" villain rather than the comic counterpart. He was chilling when talking to Dwight about Daryl not being like him, that Daryl was emotional. That Daryl was either headed home or on his way back to kill more saviors, probably himself (Negan) and Dwight. The tightness of that shot, the lighting, the cold look on JDMs face - perfection.
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Post by danae on Feb 28, 2017 0:08:41 GMT
Part Two
The first time that Eugene is to meet with Negan we catch the tail end of a conversation Negan is having with someone (off camera)in regard to finding Daryl. Negan states "we'll send Simon over to take a peak, he can sort good cop this thing first, see how far we get" I thought this was a nice touch and a clever way to tie the previous episodes to this episode, to give some fluidity.
And then we get to the scene of Dwight back at his home he shared with Sherry. I thought this was the most powerful scene of the episode. And although Dwight/Austin did not speak, his facial expressions, body language said a great deal, conveyed his emotions. My heart hurt when she wrote about how frustrated he would get knowing that he would be unable to remember the good days, the special days due to his inability to retain moments to memory. I found this to be a very sad statement because all they have left of before are their memories.
And then the part where she states that she wanted to wait for him but she couldn't because she did not know what would happen. Would he leave with her, would he bring her back to the Sanctuary or would he kill her. I cannot imagine having such deep seeded doubt in regard to someone who loves me. To doubt someone like that, that is a hard truth to acknowledge. That the person you love is so far gone, so entrenched in this world of Negan that she cannot rely on him to protect her, that he just might willingly send her to her death.
Add to that fear she also carries the burden that she blames herself for Dwight becoming the man she is afraid of, the man she doubts. "I love who you were. I'm sorry I made you into who you are". She blames herself for who Dwight is. Dwight blames himself for driving her to the point where she helps Daryl escape just so he will not have to face who he (Dwight) once was. So he will not have to see his old self in Daryl each and every day. And I think even deeper, so that Dwight would not have to watch Daryl slowly become who he (Dwight) currently is.
Suffice it to say, I liked this episode and upon my second viewing I would say that I enjoyed the hell out of this episode. I think it is also pretty clear that parts that had the biggest impact on me were the scenes that involved Dwight. Say what you will about the character, like him, hate him, confused by him - but the actor Austin Amelio is doing a damn fine job of bringing the character to life. I would even venture to say that Dwight is one of the most complex characters the show has had in a very long time, possibly as far back as Shane.
I look forward to watching (hopefully) a change in Dwight. I look forward to more of those layers being peeled back. I look forward to what the writers have concocted for us as the audience to not hate him at the end of the season. Maybe they will have us wanting him to change, maybe they will have us pulling for his redemption.
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Post by Thales Targaryen on Feb 28, 2017 4:29:16 GMT
danae Negan Minion, I love it! I think that Dwight is on his path to redemption, him and haircut are going the be the moles that give Rick's group that extra bit of power to overtake Negan. I still hate him because Glenn is dead because of him. But as PepperAnn said, I really hated Gabriel too, and I'm cool with him now. I'm loving 7B so far, looking forward to the following eps and hoping they keep up the quality!
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Post by Thales Targaryen on Feb 28, 2017 4:29:40 GMT
BTW danae, I give your essay a TENOUTTATEN!!!
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Post by PepperAnn on Feb 28, 2017 14:17:30 GMT
Part Two The first time that Eugene is to meet with Negan we catch the tail end of a conversation Negan is having with someone (off camera)in regard to finding Daryl. Negan states "we'll send Simon over to take a peak, he can sort good cop this thing first, see how far we get" I thought this was a nice touch and a clever way to tie the previous episodes to this episode, to give some fluidity. And then we get to the scene of Dwight back at his home he shared with Sherry. I thought this was the most powerful scene of the episode. And although Dwight/Austin did not speak, his facial expressions, body language said a great deal, conveyed his emotions. My heart hurt when she wrote about how frustrated he would get knowing that he would be unable to remember the good days, the special days due to his inability to retain moments to memory. I found this to be a very sad statement because all they have left of before are their memories. And then the part where she states that she wanted to wait for him but she couldn't because she did not know what would happen. Would he leave with her, would he bring her back to the Sanctuary or would he kill her. I cannot imagine having such deep seeded doubt in regard to someone who loves me. To doubt someone like that, that is a hard truth to acknowledge. That the person you love is so far gone, so entrenched in this world of Negan that she cannot rely on him to protect her, that he just might willingly send her to her death. Add to that fear she also carries the burden that she blames herself for Dwight becoming the man she is afraid of, the man she doubts. "I love who you were. I'm sorry I made you into who you are". She blames herself for who Dwight is. Dwight blames himself for driving her to the point where she helps Daryl escape just so he will not have to face who he (Dwight) once was. So he will not have to see his old self in Daryl each and every day. And I think even deeper, so that Dwight would not have to watch Daryl slowly become who he (Dwight) currently is. Suffice it to say, I liked this episode and upon my second viewing I would say that I enjoyed the hell out of this episode. I think it is also pretty clear that parts that had the biggest impact on me were the scenes that involved Dwight. Say what you will about the character, like him, hate him, confused by him - but the actor Austin Amelio is doing a damn fine job of bringing the character to life. I would even venture to say that Dwight is one of the most complex characters the show has had in a very long time, possibly as far back as Shane. I look forward to watching (hopefully) a change in Dwight. I look forward to more of those layers being peeled back. I look forward to what the writers have concocted for us as the audience to not hate him at the end of the season. Maybe they will have us wanting him to change, maybe they will have us pulling for his redemption. Damn Danae. That was thought out and written out really well. You should be our resident episode critique. LOL
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Post by PepperAnn on Feb 28, 2017 14:18:00 GMT
BTW danae , I give your essay a TENOUTTATEN!!! Yeah exactly.
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Post by danae on Feb 28, 2017 15:04:49 GMT
Part Two
The first time that Eugene is to meet with Negan we catch the tail end of a conversation Negan is having with someone (off camera)in regard to finding Daryl. Negan states "we'll send Simon over to take a peak, he can sort good cop this thing first, see how far we get" I thought this was a nice touch and a clever way to tie the previous episodes to this episode, to give some fluidity... Damn Danae. That was thought out and written out really well. You should be our resident episode critique. LOL Awwww you flatter me
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