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Post by weallgotit on Mar 20, 2017 2:43:22 GMT
I always wondered if Maggie would have any anger at Daryl for punching Negan and getting Glenn Killed. It took the show long enough but they finally got around to having them talk about it tonight. I know I might be in the minority, but I think she should be a little pissed at least. I mean, Glenn would probably have not gotten Lucilled that night if Daryl did not do that. So why wouldn't his wife and the mother of his child harbor some resentment toward Daryl for his reckless actions. It would only be natural. Would you be so forgiving?
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Post by danae on Mar 20, 2017 2:50:36 GMT
would I be so forgiving? I would hope so, but more than likely not.
I think it is well within the character of maggie to be forgiving, she is after all Hershel's daughter.
And as angry as I was (initially) with daryl I finally did see it with different eyes.
Maggie understands that what daryl did was a reaction in defense of rosita. daryl saw rosita as being threatened and his only thought in the heat of the moment was to save her. he had no way of knowing that his actions would have someone else killed other than himself.
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Post by PepperAnn on Mar 20, 2017 3:00:28 GMT
Yeah I was never upset with Daryl. He was upset enough with himself. And if I were Maggie I would have been the same way she was with him tonight. There was no way to predict what Negan ended up doing as a result of Daryl's actions so I would be doing everything I could to make sure he knew I didn't hold him responsible. But that's just me. Lol
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Post by jackson04 on Mar 20, 2017 13:15:34 GMT
Maggie seen how it really bothered Daryl that Glenn got killed. And all thanks to him. I just wanted to give Daryl a hug! I'm sure Maggie felt the same way. At least Daryl did try.
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Post by calliope on Mar 20, 2017 13:35:47 GMT
Personally I may not be quite as forgiving, but I do think that it is well within Maggie's character to forgive Daryl and move on. It's part of what will make her a good leader for Hilltop.
I think the consequences that he has suffered being taken prisoner by Negan, and the incredibly genuine remorse that he is feeling plays into that response. If he were more cavalier and brushed off any responsibility for Glenn's death, it's possible that she would see it differently, but he can't feel any worse for what happened.
I hope that they keep this connection between these two characters. I'd never want to see a romance, but I'd love to see Daryl take a strong role in protecting and providing for Maggie's baby even if it's an uncomfortable role for him to be in.
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Post by danae on Mar 20, 2017 13:41:12 GMT
Personally I may not be quite as forgiving, but I do think that it is well within Maggie's character to forgive Daryl and move on. It's part of what will make her a good leader for Hilltop. I think the consequences that he has suffered being taken prisoner by Negan, and the incredibly genuine remorse that he is feeling plays into that response. If he were more cavalier and brushed off any responsibility for Glenn's death, it's possible that she would see it differently, but he can't feel any worse for what happened. I hope that they keep this connection between these two characters. I'd never want to see a romance, but I'd love to see Daryl take a strong role in protecting and providing for Maggie's baby even if it's an uncomfortable role for him to be in. I agree with everything! Daryl becoming the protector of Maggie and Glenn's baby would give Daryl a very focused purpose. Daryl would see it as his path to redemption for the death of Glenn, because lets face it, Daryl will never fully forgive himself for the death of Glenn. And I agree, keep the relationship between Daryl and Maggie strictly platonic/familial.
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Post by stealth on Mar 20, 2017 14:28:27 GMT
I wouldn't be as forgiving as Maggie. At the very least I'd feel he'd need to suffer a bit in his guilt for what happened. Negan is a lunatic so he is ultimately responsible for Glenn's death, but Daryl should have known better after Abe was brutally killed. He could have gotten everyone killed there.
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Post by danae on Mar 20, 2017 15:02:59 GMT
So far we have myself, calliope and stealth of the not so quick to forgive types. Whew, thank goodness I am not alone.
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Post by thehainted on Mar 20, 2017 15:05:56 GMT
Dude deserves forgiveness. As noted he grew up with scum and he took Negan for just that old school bully trash. Most of these minded folk would kill what bothers them. Negan happens to be smart and knows the real way to punish someone is make him watch you punish someone else for what you did. How were they to know? Richard pulled the same move last week. He messed with the saviours and got Ben shot, again no one there really knew the saviours method of punishment. Now if they had been at odds for a while and they knew how saviours react it would be a different story.
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Post by wickedjenИ on Mar 20, 2017 15:35:33 GMT
To be honest here, I have no idea how I would really feel because I can't even imagine going through what Maggie did. But, to answer to the show... I honestly never really thought about it being Daryl's fault in that sense, just because I was focused on Negan and what he was doing in particular, I guess. I refer to thehainted's post - none of them had any idea who they were dealing with when they went up against the Saviors, I believe they thought they'd take them down in one fell swoop like they've done to other groups in the past. If Negan and the Saviors are one thing, it's unpredictable. Daryl simply reacted to what he saw, he wanted to defend his group members. I mean, he was shot, then held in a cage, and then he sees a member of his group die, it's not as if you have much clarity of mind in that situation anyway. That being said, I'm not saying that I don't agree with Daryl taking some blame, if you look at cause and effect circumstances anyway. But whatever fault he had, I think he paid for it and then some when he was imprisoned and tortured for an extended period of time. Maggie knows all of this, and I think when you add it all up together, that's why she forgave him.
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Post by weallgotit on Mar 21, 2017 0:19:16 GMT
I wouldn't be as forgiving as Maggie. At the very least I'd feel he'd need to suffer a bit in his guilt for what happened. Negan is a lunatic so he is ultimately responsible for Glenn's death, but Daryl should have known better after Abe was brutally killed. He could have gotten everyone killed there. This is what I mean. After seeing what Negan did to Abe, Daryl like the rest of the group should have been in shock or petrified with fear. No one should have taken any chances at that point to make things any worse for the group. It would not mean Maggie is heartless if she was a little upset with Daryl for his actions that night. Or that she hates him. It would mean she holds him responsible for his actions which directly led to Glenn beating beaten to death. Then of course she will forgive him because that's who she is.
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Post by batmanshooker on Mar 21, 2017 5:15:07 GMT
Haha fuck no.
I get that Daryl was angry, but if you're outnumbered, unarmed, and some psycho has just slaughtered your friend in front of you, what in the name of hell would possibly make you think that jumping up and clocking that guy would be a good idea? Maggie should be mad at him.
I guess it's too much to ask for some internal drama that's a little less shallow than two girls fighting over a guy tho *sigh*
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Post by heriotoffire on Mar 21, 2017 9:01:48 GMT
People need scapegoats, especially in surreal circumstances like this. I don't buy anyone saying they'd be so quick to forgive.
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Post by stealth on Mar 21, 2017 12:38:07 GMT
Haha fuck no. I get that Daryl was angry, but if you're outnumbered, unarmed, and some psycho has just slaughtered your friend in front of you, what in the name of hell would possibly make you think that jumping up and clocking that guy would be a good idea? Maggie should be mad at him. I guess it's too much to ask for some internal drama that's a little less shallow than two girls fighting over a guy tho *sigh* And it's not even as if Daryl rushed Negan as he was hitting Abe. He waited until the guy was beyond dead and Negan was just taunting Rosita a bit with Lucille. MAYBE if that had been Carol who Negan was tormenting I would give Daryl a bit more of a break. But he doesn't even have a bond with Rosita. His move was idiotic.
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Post by weallgotit on Mar 21, 2017 19:51:49 GMT
Haha fuck no. I get that Daryl was angry, but if you're outnumbered, unarmed, and some psycho has just slaughtered your friend in front of you, what in the name of hell would possibly make you think that jumping up and clocking that guy would be a good idea? Maggie should be mad at him. I guess it's too much to ask for some internal drama that's a little less shallow than two girls fighting over a guy tho *sigh* And it's not even as if Daryl rushed Negan as he was hitting Abe. He waited until the guy was beyond dead and Negan was just taunting Rosita a bit with Lucille. MAYBE if that had been Carol who Negan was tormenting I would give Daryl a bit more of a break. But he doesn't even have a bond with Rosita. His move was idiotic. Exactly. I thought that the second after he hit Negan. For taunting Rosita? The timing and reasoning of it were off to me. If Maggie showed some anger it would just be a natural reaction to someone doing something that caused her spouse to be killed.
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