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Post by wickedjenИ on Mar 22, 2017 14:04:39 GMT
Going to just add some more perspective here, this is a good topic and I love all the discussion.
Addressing Daryl's reaction time...I'm going to give an example of something -
A friend of mine was sexually assaulted some years ago, and I'm not going into details other than to say that it was in a public place and he did it fast and moved on. She stood there, rooted to the ground for a good ten minutes or so after it happened. She was in complete and total shock. She told me it was like her mind hadn't even caught up to process what had just happened to her physically. Suddenly she said, it was like a switch went on, and she immediately bolted after the guy, and after that she said, all she had was rage.
Though obviously not the same scenario, the reaction description I feel is the same. When you have something so horrible either happening to you or it's something you witness, you can be in such a state of complete and total shock that you can't actually believe what you're seeing happen is real. It's as if you just freeze and you can't react right away.
I've seen a car careen and swerve and flip over on its roof right in front of me, and I can tell you, it took me a good fifteen minutes to register that I did actually see it happen.
I'm not using this as an excuse for anything, but to shine the light on some other possibilities as to why Daryl reacted at the particular time he did. And I have to also say, when you're a person who's had a traumatic childhood like he did, let me tell you, your mind goes somewhere else when you see violence happening sometimes. It's like you're reliving it, even if it's not happening to you.
Anyone can sit there and say "I'd definitely do this or that" but you know what, until you're actually faced with that situation, you DON'T know how you'd actually react, IMO. Which is why I prefaced my original post with that exact sentence.
Again, my post is not to condone what Daryl did, it's merely an examination of why/how/etc.
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Post by danae on Mar 22, 2017 16:19:00 GMT
Going to just add some more perspective here, this is a good topic and I love all the discussion. Addressing Daryl's reaction time...I'm going to give an example of something - A friend of mine was sexually assaulted some years ago, and I'm not going into details other than to say that it was in a public place and he did it fast and moved on. She stood there, rooted to the ground for a good ten minutes or so after it happened. She was in complete and total shock. She told me it was like her mind hadn't even caught up to process what had just happened to her physically. Suddenly she said, it was like a switch went on, and she immediately bolted after the guy, and after that she said, all she had was rage. Though obviously not the same scenario, the reaction description I feel is the same. When you have something so horrible either happening to you or it's something you witness, you can be in such a state of complete and total shock that you can't actually believe what you're seeing happen is real. It's as if you just freeze and you can't react right away. I've seen a car careen and swerve and flip over on its roof right in front of me, and I can tell you, it took me a good fifteen minutes to register that I did actually see it happen. I'm not using this as an excuse for anything, but to shine the light on some other possibilities as to why Daryl reacted at the particular time he did. And I have to also say, when you're a person who's had a traumatic childhood like he did, let me tell you, your mind goes somewhere else when you see violence happening sometimes. It's like you're reliving it, even if it's not happening to you. Anyone can sit there and say "I'd definitely do this or that" but you know what, until you're actually faced with that situation, you DON'T know how you'd actually react, IMO. Which is why I prefaced my original post with that exact sentence. Again, my post is not to condone what Daryl did, it's merely an examination of why/how/etc. Great post and food for thought. I immediately went to a incident that happened to me many MANY years ago. I was out walking to the store, purse in hand when I noticed two guys walking towards me. Normally I would not have given them a second glance but something just pulled at my gut telling me this was not going to play out well. Gut was correct. When they drew a bit closer they both took off at a clip towards me. For some reason I just knew this was going to happen and I held on to my purse very tightly (as if there was anything worth stealing LOL - oh well hindsight)...I digress. When they were close enough one of them reached for my purse but was unable to snatch it easily since I was holding it so tightly. I took that opportunity to stick my leg out and tripped him. He fell to the ground landing flat on his back. His friend kept running. I hovered over him and said "you stupid little shit" and then I walked into the nearest store and called the police! I reacted. I reacted in a way that potentially could have caused great harm to come my way. I behaved irrationally. I did not think before acting. Dammit - now I need to go back and change some of my posts on the other forum LMAO!!
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Post by weallgotit on Mar 22, 2017 16:23:17 GMT
Going to just add some more perspective here, this is a good topic and I love all the discussion. Addressing Daryl's reaction time...I'm going to give an example of something - A friend of mine was sexually assaulted some years ago, and I'm not going into details other than to say that it was in a public place and he did it fast and moved on. She stood there, rooted to the ground for a good ten minutes or so after it happened. She was in complete and total shock. She told me it was like her mind hadn't even caught up to process what had just happened to her physically. Suddenly she said, it was like a switch went on, and she immediately bolted after the guy, and after that she said, all she had was rage. Though obviously not the same scenario, the reaction description I feel is the same. When you have something so horrible either happening to you or it's something you witness, you can be in such a state of complete and total shock that you can't actually believe what you're seeing happen is real. It's as if you just freeze and you can't react right away. I've seen a car careen and swerve and flip over on its roof right in front of me, and I can tell you, it took me a good fifteen minutes to register that I did actually see it happen. I'm not using this as an excuse for anything, but to shine the light on some other possibilities as to why Daryl reacted at the particular time he did. And I have to also say, when you're a person who's had a traumatic childhood like he did, let me tell you, your mind goes somewhere else when you see violence happening sometimes. It's like you're reliving it, even if it's not happening to you. Anyone can sit there and say "I'd definitely do this or that" but you know what, until you're actually faced with that situation, you DON'T know how you'd actually react, IMO. Which is why I prefaced my original post with that exact sentence. Again, my post is not to condone what Daryl did, it's merely an examination of why/how/etc. First of all I'm sorry that happened to your friend and I hope she has had a full recovery from the experience. But that does put his reaction more into perspective. I get how he would snap after the initial shock. Still his reaction after Negan gave that warning is what led to him killed Glenn. My thing was if I were in Maggie's shoes he'd have some serious explaining to do. But I'd eventually get over the hurt and anger and forgive him.
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Post by wickedjenИ on Mar 23, 2017 14:15:01 GMT
Going to just add some more perspective here, this is a good topic and I love all the discussion. Addressing Daryl's reaction time...I'm going to give an example of something - A friend of mine was sexually assaulted some years ago, and I'm not going into details other than to say that it was in a public place and he did it fast and moved on. She stood there, rooted to the ground for a good ten minutes or so after it happened. She was in complete and total shock. She told me it was like her mind hadn't even caught up to process what had just happened to her physically. Suddenly she said, it was like a switch went on, and she immediately bolted after the guy, and after that she said, all she had was rage. Though obviously not the same scenario, the reaction description I feel is the same. When you have something so horrible either happening to you or it's something you witness, you can be in such a state of complete and total shock that you can't actually believe what you're seeing happen is real. It's as if you just freeze and you can't react right away. I've seen a car careen and swerve and flip over on its roof right in front of me, and I can tell you, it took me a good fifteen minutes to register that I did actually see it happen. I'm not using this as an excuse for anything, but to shine the light on some other possibilities as to why Daryl reacted at the particular time he did. And I have to also say, when you're a person who's had a traumatic childhood like he did, let me tell you, your mind goes somewhere else when you see violence happening sometimes. It's like you're reliving it, even if it's not happening to you. Anyone can sit there and say "I'd definitely do this or that" but you know what, until you're actually faced with that situation, you DON'T know how you'd actually react, IMO. Which is why I prefaced my original post with that exact sentence. Again, my post is not to condone what Daryl did, it's merely an examination of why/how/etc. First of all I'm sorry that happened to your friend and I hope she has had a full recovery from the experience. But that does put his reaction more into perspective. I get how he would snap after the initial shock. Still his reaction after Negan gave that warning is what led to him killed Glenn. My thing was if I were in Maggie's shoes he'd have some serious explaining to do. But I'd eventually get over the hurt and anger and forgive him. Thank you, I appreciate that. I do wish they had expounded on that scene and had Daryl and Maggie talk a little more than that, but, maybe it was because so much time had passed, who knows. Perhaps, and just a guess here, Maggie knew what kind of person Daryl was (which she said he was a good person so I'm going off of that), and...knowing how difficult it was for him to even acknowledge her at all, let alone to apologize for something that, well, it's not like he forgot supplies she needed, it was a life and death situation. She saw his raw emotion and that he did utter those words of apology. It took the right words from her to get him to open up and address the huge elephant in the room. He'd been avoiding her up until she brought him out of his self-confinement. She knew he'd been beating himself up with guilt even while he was being held in the Sanctuary, he tortured himself along with the torture he received. I think, had he acted any other way than what he did, then she may have approached that in a different way than what she did. Who knows for sure, I'm just speculating here of course.
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